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        <![CDATA[ Sunday, March 22, 2009

Prop bets challenge the grind of online poker


By Sarah Polson

You&#39;ve read poker book after poker book. You&#39;ve honed your game at the virtual tables and now find yourself earning a living playing online
poker for hours at home.

But the grind has become, well, a grind.

It happens to the best of players, but instead of taking a break, some have found a way to spice up the game and, like true action junkies, have the
potential to pick up even more money on the... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Online poker players be afraid, be very afraid  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">phillysteve wrote:</strong>
  <hr>

  <blockquote>
    <strong class="quote-title">jabba021 wrote:</strong>
    <hr>
    &lt;&lt;&lt; lol unbeleivable &gt;&gt;&gt;
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  <p><br>
  i before e except after c</p>

  <p>You spell as bad as kfs. Maybe you two (it&#39;s probably one - LOL) should take English lessons instead of wasting your money and time playing the
  sucker&#39;s game of online poker?</p>
</blockquote>It was actually just a... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Online poker players be afraid, be very afraid  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ nah, id rather keep playing, keep learning, and enjoy the benefits. reading your false claims is just entertainment, so im not gonna put much effort into spell
checking etc... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">jabba021 wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  &lt;&lt;&lt; lol unbeleivable &gt;&gt;&gt;
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<p><br>
i before e except after c</p>

<p>You spell as bad as kfs. Maybe you two (it&#39;s probably one - LOL) should take English lessons instead of wasting your money and time playing the
sucker&#39;s game of online poker? </p> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ lol unbeleivable ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Online poker players be afraid, be very afraid  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">kfs wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  again, you are the ONLY one on this site with something to sell. and THATS not debatable!
  <br>
  <br>
  after thinking about it though, what you are doing here (all your lying etc...) may actual be providing a good service. if anyone is actually stupid enough
  to believe all of your &#39;rock solid claims&#39;, and calculations (with no actual calculations shown), and how you spin what pros say (like saying when... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ again, you are the ONLY one on this site with something to sell. and THATS not debatable!
<br>
<br>
after thinking about it though, what you are doing here (all your lying etc...) may actual be providing a good service. if anyone is actually stupid enough to
believe all of your &#39;rock solid claims&#39;, and calculations (with no actual calculations shown), and how you spin what pros say (like saying when Barry G
says &#39;tournament players&#39; he actually means &#39;online players&#39;),... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>kfs - The readers can read our posts and decide for themselves what they should do. However I&#39;m glad you have posted so the readers can get an insight
on how hucksters like you spin the facts in order to entice and lure young and underage people into gambling, and try to get addicts to continue to
gamble...just so you can get more money to fuel your own gambling addiction. It&#39;s a viscious cycle and you may not believe this but I don&#39;t blame you,
as you are only considered a... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ ^^ omg +1mirrion ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Its really not debatable only with you, because you base everything on &#39;feelings&#39;, or quoting articles, then spinning them by saying &#39;i believe
what he is actually saying here is...&#39;. You have no math, no proof. You cant really debate with someone that says &#39;well, im just right! and if you
disagree you are wrong or lying&#39;. Which is your whole MO.
<br>
<br>
I also think its strange that you never make the distinction between tournaments and cash games, as the variance... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">jabba021 wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Also you keep referring to tournaments (lol donkaments). There is a reason the poker community calls them donkaments, for one they are full of donks who are
  trying to score big, and two winning a tournament relys a lot on SHORT TERM VARIANCE. If you flip your stack twice you should be eliminated statistically
  (50/50 ldo). This is why MTTs require much higher bankroll requirements than cash games. Cash games are... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ jabba, Steve has no idea about bankroll management, and its probably useless to try to explain it to him. He really believes that Henry lost $75k in poker, and
that 100% of it was lost to the rake. Unfortunately, he wont provide his math for coming to this conclusion.
<br>
<br>
&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;Sure it&#39;s possible and it&#39;s already been done&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
<br>
<br>
Ok, now Im confused. So you are asking for proof of a long term winner in any raked poker, or just online poker? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Also you keep referring to tournaments (lol donkaments). There is a reason the poker community calls them donkaments, for one they are full of donks who are
trying to score big, and two winning a tournament relys a lot on SHORT TERM VARIANCE. If you flip your stack twice you should be eliminated statistically
(50/50 ldo). This is why MTTs require much higher bankroll requirements than cash games. Cash games are where you find the &quot;grinders&quot; who try not to
worry about short term... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">kfs wrote:</strong>
  <hr>

  <blockquote>
    Sure it counts...for now...let&#39;s see where he&#39;s at 3 - 5 years from now.....
  </blockquote>See, and this is exactly why its pointless to debate with you. You are ONLY asking for something not possible to give. You might as well be
  saying that all iPhone 3Gs explode after 3 years of use. Well, they havent been out for 3 years, so we havent seen any 3 year old iPods that... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ *sigh* For many people playing poker is their job so if they played poker for rediculous amounts of time they would be a &quot;workaholic&quot; ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  Sure it counts...for now...let&#39;s see where he&#39;s at 3 - 5 years from now.....
</blockquote>See, and this is exactly why its pointless to debate with you.  You are ONLY asking for something not possible to give.  You might as well be
saying that all iPhone 3Gs explode after 3 years of use.  Well, they havent been out for 3 years, so we havent seen any 3 year old iPods that
<strong>havent</strong> exploded, so you must be right! 
<br>
<br>
You should really just stop... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">kfs wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Phil Galfond had a 2 story condo designed and built in manhatten (probably not cheap), that he just moved into a couple months ago. Does that count?
</blockquote>Sure it counts...for now...let&#39;s see where he&#39;s at 3 - 5 years from now.....
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Phil Galfond had a 2 story condo designed and built in manhatten (probably not cheap), that he just moved into a couple months ago. Does that count? ]]></description>

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  <strong class="quote-title">jabba021 wrote:</strong>
  <hr>

  <blockquote>
    <strong class="quote-title">phillysteve wrote:</strong>
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      <strong class="quote-title">kfs wrote:</strong>
      <hr>
      I dont know about most, I do not think that is true. And youve shown that you really have no idea what you are talking about, so I really cant just take
      your word for it. I have friends that are good poker players, some are breakeven players,... ]]></description>

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  <strong class="quote-title">phillysteve wrote:</strong>
  <hr>

  <blockquote>
    <strong class="quote-title">kfs wrote:</strong>
    <hr>
    I dont know about most, I do not think that is true. And youve shown that you really have no idea what you are talking about, so I really cant just take
    your word for it. I have friends that are good poker players, some are breakeven players, some are winners, and there is a direct corelation between how
    much they/we win, and... ]]></description>

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  <strong class="quote-title">kfs wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  I dont know about most, I do not think that is true. And youve shown that you really have no idea what you are talking about, so I really cant just take your
  word for it. I have friends that are good poker players, some are breakeven players, some are winners, and there is a direct corelation between how much
  they/we win, and how much effort we put into learning.
  <br>
  <br>
  I also have a couple friends who I... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p class="pub-date">Sunday, March 22, 2009</p>

<h2 class="first-of-kind">Prop bets challenge the grind of online poker
<br>
<br>
By Sarah Polson</h2>

<p><strong>You&#39;ve read poker book after poker book. You&#39;ve honed your game at the virtual tables and now find yourself earning a living playing online
poker for hours at home.</strong></p>

<p>But the grind has become, well, a grind.</p>

<p>It happens to the best of players, but instead of taking a break, some have found a way to... ]]></description>

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